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UK: Halal Monitoring Committee Limited goes into liquidation but is trading as HMC (UK) as it continues its work to supply Genuine Halal

6/5/12  source: HMC (UK) Press release

Behalal team: This article was posted on 2nd May 2012, we have had a number of people contact us that they couldn’t post comments which has been down to a technical problem from our end. Halal Monitoring Committee Limited is in the process of being dissolved allowing them to be debt free and to continue their work they have set up as HMC (UK).

The following press release was issued to us 1/5/12.

18/4/12

HMC Background

In September 2011, HMC registered for VAT as agreed with the HMRC. Previous to this, HMC believed it was exempt from VAT due to the nature of its work and charity status

In early 2012, HMRC informed HMC that it should re-bill all its pre-existing customers for VAT dating back from 2005 and make payments due

The majority of pre-existing customers would be able to re-claim VAT from HMRC but could not pay due to cash flow

This requirement by HMRC caused HMC to have significant unforeseen cash flow issues, that it could not reconcile and settle with HMRC

 

After consulting with Scholars, and in response:

HMC UK has been established by concerned Trustees and Ulama to continue the work of Halal

Since February 2012 it has already taken on the responsibility of supplying genuine halal to 500+ outlets throughout the UK (continuity of halal supply)

 

Yunus Dudhwala, said the “the work for Halal is an important matter within the community and we are pleased with the response and support received”. HMC UK are pleased to support the Muslim Community and continue to provide much needed Halal Certification.

 

On Behalf of HMC UK

Board of Directors and Trustees

HMC is a trading name of HMC (UK) which is a company limited by guarantee. Registered in England and Wales. Registration No. 7914375

 

Statement Ends

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The following information is in the Public domain:

Winding Up Petitions (Companies) Notices:

Result 182 of 283 notices from the most recent publications

Date: 18 April 2012

Issue Number: 60119

Page number: 7630

Publication Date: Wednesday, 18 April 2012

Notice Code: 2450

Petitions to Wind Up (Companies)

In the High Court of Justice (Chancery Division)

Companies Court     No 2135 of 2012

In the Matter of HALAL MONITORING COMMITTEE LIMITED

(Company Number 05223745)

and in the Matter of the Insolvency Act 1986

A Petition to wind up the above-named Company, Registration Number 05223745, of 83 Rolleston Street, Leicester, Leicestershire, UK, LE5 3SD, presented on 6 March 2012 by the Commissioners for HM Revenue and Customs, of Bush House, Strand, London WC2B 4RD, claiming to be Creditors of the Company, will be heard at the Royal Courts of Justice, 7 Rolls Buildings, Fetter Lane, London EC4A 1NL, on 30 April 2012, at 1030 hours (or as soon thereafter as the Petition can be heard).

Any persons intending to appear on the hearing of the Petition (whether to support or oppose it) must give notice of intention to do so to the Petitioners or to their Solicitor in accordance with Rule 4.16 by 1600 hours on 27 April 2012.

The Petitioners’ Solicitor is the Solicitor to HM Revenue and Customs, Solicitor’s Office, South West Wing, Bush House, Strand, London WC2B 4RD, telephone 020 7438 6920. (Ref SLR 1596239/37/N.)

18 April 2012.

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23 Responses

  1. Roger Carr

    COMMENTS:

    I was astonished and disgusted to read that (HMC) the Halal Monitoring Committee Limited have chosen not to pay its outstanding debts which are outstanding to the HMRC after consulting with it Scholars.

    After all the preaching and bullying that we had to endure at Simply Halal at the hands of HMC staff, and the constant double standards witnessed on a nearly daily basis, this latest statement by HMC Scholars and trustees does not surprise me!

    What does surprise me is that respected Scholars and trustees think it is Islamic and acceptable to shut a business without paying its debts!

    I would be very interested to know which trusted HMC Scholars think it is correct and Islamic, to fiddle the system like this, by not paying its bills, to then open up a new company and then continue to trade both the existing company and new company without telling its customers or suppliers.

    How a company has traded and issued company accounts for the last 6 years, but still failed to acknowledge and realise that HMC had to charge VAT, is unthinkable and some would suggest unbelievable but it says it all about the HMC Management team.

    If HMC was owed money, they would be the first to withdraw its staff, and tell the HMC shops to refuse your product because if it hasn’t got the HMC stamp its Haram!

    It’s time to put a stop to the HMC tax, because it is obviously not Halal!

    Roger Carr

    Simply Halal Sales Ltd

    1. Asad Yasin

      I have read the Trustees statement of HMC (company in liquidation) and strongly disagree with the assertion that the vat was recoverable from majority of its pre-existing customers.

      They following questions need to be answered:-

      The unpaid vat element of £659,210- related to sales since 2004. The vat Legislation would have prohibited them to issue backdated invoices.

      What were the incentives for the customers to pay extra money to in order to save HMC form going into liquidation.

      Majority of the customers were non-vat registered (this is a back and white fact) small butcher shops and take-a-ways. This is contrary to HMC statement they would have been able to claim back the vat.

      It would be help full to publish the name of the Scholars who were in agreement to write off the debts (to manipulate the system in this way is equivalent to making an Haram act as a Halal act) and to establish a new company.

      It would also be helpful if the trustees could publish the professional advice received in relation to HMC being exempt for VAT purposes. Simply stating that HMC “believed it was exempt from VAT” is a gateway leading to further problems.

      Contrary to HMC claim that the cash flows problem were unforeseen. Cash flow problems should have been foreseen at the time when a back dated assessment for vat was issued by HMRC. Cash flow problems were simply ignored and were not taken seriously and the trustee have found a simple solution to allow the company into liquidation and to form a new limited company at the cost between £5 to £30-

      To allow this sort of practices is setting a dangerous precedent.

      1. A Baig Accountancy Student

        In accuracy in the HMC Statement
        “In September 2011, HMC registered for VAT as agreed with the HMRC. Previous to this, HMC believed it was exempt from VAT due to the nature of its work and charity status”
        The above statement is fundamentally incorrect.
        HMC was running a business through a Limited Company like any other businesses in the United Kingdom. It was registered as a charity in May 2009. HMC’s turnover was around one million per year until May 2009 mainly generated from inspection, monitoring and advertising. This income was subject to VAT.
        Simply saying it believed that the company was VAT exempt. Are they implying that all of the directors, financial advisor and auditors were not aware of this important VAT issue. Were the directors, accountants, and the auditors not paid for their services?. Have they conveniently overlooked this issue? or were they not competent. Or was it always the intention to seek cover of limited liability.
        In accurate Statement
        “In early 2012, HMRC informed HMC that it should re-bill all its pre-existing customers for VAT dating back from 2005 and make payments due”
        It was the responsibility of the HMC’s director to issue proper Vat invoices. HMRC does not advise how to recover the vat from customer.
        Misleading Statement
        “The majority of pre-existing customers would be able to re-claim VAT from HMRC but could not pay due to cash flow”
        Almost 90% percent of its customers are not VAT registered. Recoverably of the old VAT was almost impossible. HMC assumed that all of the HMC old customers were still in business and were still registered with HMC. People go out of business and they don’t require the services provided.
        Misleading Statement
        “This requirement by HMRC caused HMC to have significant unforeseen cash flow issues, that it could not reconcile and settle with HMRC”
        There was no intention to pay the VAT. It was cheaper option to let the company into liquidation and to start with a clean slate.
        After consulting with Scholars, and in response:
        Every one irrespective of faith, which Islamic Scholar or Scholars has/have given them advise to manipulate the system in this manner…
        Why HMC never informed its customers that a new company was formed in January 2012 and are continuing to provide the same service at the same price. Naïve Customers are unaware of the fact that HMC has gone into liquidation further more they have been asked to sign a new direct debit form.
        One customer was informed recently the HMC are operating two divisions, another customer was unaware of the company going into liquidation and stated that rumours that the company has been liquidated.
        Publishing misleading information in the accounts
        Given the circumstances the recovery of the debts was virtually impossible and the company was unable to pay it debts. Why did HMC’s prepared accounts, were signed in December 2011(knowing that the future of the company may be uncertain) on the basis that it would continue to trade for the next twelve month.

  2. Pure halal

    It’s total nonsense on how Hmc have conducted themselves, all they have been is legalised criminals by filling their own pockets through religion. It is haram if you owe debts and their brand should not be supported as its haram too. They are bullies and feed of the communities that have supported them whilst they have pocketed the money. I think it’s time to put an end to these sort of get rich schemes and kick them out. They are a shame to our religion and beliefs. Say no to Hmc . Say no to the mafia .

  3. Abdullah Khan

    HMC has been a God send for my family and many in the Muslim community. We all know that there is rampant cheating going on in the so-called halal market. From non-Muslims slaughtering Qurbani animals in Scotland, pork in our halal chickens, pork in donor kebabs to blatant machine slaughter of chickens and labelled as halal (all stories reported in the non-Muslim media). So to have HMC sending inspectors and ensuring compliance in halal slaughter is necessary. They have made it clear, they did not charge VAT, did not collect and therefore could not pay, fine by me. Long live HMC!

  4. B L

    It is demonstrating dishonesty with the approval of so called “Ulama.”
    They are the first bunch of people who would be thrown into jahannam (Hell).
    I challange anyone who can show me even one Aalim. There is no Aalim,the only Aalim is Allah Himself and anyone else is simply a scholar.

  5. Azil

    Abdullah,

    It is unfortunate that you like you like many others have been totally brainwashed, and manipulated by HMC into believing that only HMC product is Halal!

    If you & the public really knew the truth, you would be ashamed to be associated with them!

    In short if you pay the Halal Mafia money, your product is Halal, the day you stop paying them money your product is haram!

    If it makes you feel better, I can can give you addresses of fellow Muslims (HMC Inspectors), who will gladly sell you stickers to put on your chickens!

    HMC are a total joke, which originally started with good intentions, but got took over by businessmen, and then unfortunately grew out of control and has failed to be managed!

    Next time you eat your HMC chicken, just think you are contributing to this crime!

    And by the way, if you really believe that the accountant and Management team at (HMC)Halal Monitoring Committee did not know after 6 years of filing accounts, and signing them off, without an accountant knowing that they needed to charge VAT for 6 years!! How can you trust them to tell you the truth?

  6. Tess

    HMC serves a vital role to all UK Muslims in selecting authenticated halal meat. Muslims r rest assured that the updated certificate of HMC meat means availability of halal meat. Agree with brother Abdullah. Long live HMC!

  7. Truth Seeker 2012

    Salam,

    I think that we look at this issue objectively and Islamically. Many commentators have expressed an opinion based on personal bias for and against HMC yet Islam teaches us to stand up for the truth whether it favors you or goes against your position.

    On this basis the HMC decision cannot be justified Islamically and if a fatwa can be provided then I am willing to reassess my own position. However by supporting HMC in this decision one is allowing for a dangerous precedent to be set and that is that it is acceptable to not pay outstanding debts if HMC have any and continue trading under a different name. If there are debts to pay whether that is to the HMRC or anyone then every effort should be made to pay. Also HMC is obviously not a charity as the company liquidated was a Limited Company.

    Especially if you are setting up another company which is going to generate revenue which can be used to pay the debts. It is very unfortunate that HMC has taken this decision.

    Just to state my own position. I am committed to non-stunned, healthy, animal welfare concious food production and will support anyone who is willing to do this regardless of the name of that person or organisation. However our business transactions must also be halal as well otherwise their is a contradiction.

    Please do not be sectarian on this issue and if a wrong has been done then support justice.

  8. Abdur Rahman

    It’s astonishing how everyone thinks they ‘know it all’ when it comes to the religion.

    Even if you don’t agree then the least you can do is remain silent.

  9. obsydian

    A total xxxx scam, excellent is over, they have lied and smeared people like HFA who by the way do not charge.

    Good riddence to the fools which brought this Halal fitnah to Muslims.

    Now pay you’re debts not rename yourselves and continue the scam.

    Lastly which idiot thought you were a charity.

    You bear all the characteristics of the khawaarij.

  10. obsydian

    I once bought a HMC Turkey from Dial Halal in Walthamstow.

    The Turkey was slaughtered in Yuguslavia, I did not realize HMC went that for, guess it was postal approval

  11. Ashraful M

    Debt is a serious matter in Islam and should be returned to the debtor no matter what.

    Firstly:
    The fuqaha’ define dayn (debt) as an obligation to be fulfilled, as it says in al-Mawsoo’ah al-Fiqhiyyah (21/102). The linguistic meaning of the word dayn (debt) in Arabic has to do with submission and humiliation. The connection between the shar’i meaning and the linguistic meaning is clear. The debtor is a prisoner, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Your companion is being detained by his debt.” Narrated by Abu Dawood, 3341; classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.

    Secondly
    Islam takes the matter of debt very seriously and warns against it and urges the Muslim to avoid it as much as possible.
    It was narrated from ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to say in his prayer: “Allaahumma inni a’oodhi bika min al-ma’tham wa’l-maghram (O Allaah, I seek refuge with You from sin and heavy debt).” Someone said to him: “How often you seek refuge from heavy debt!” He said: “When a man gets into debt, he speak and tells lies, and he makes a promise and breaks it.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (832) and Muslim (589).
    Al-Nasaa’i (4605) narrated that Muhammad ibn Jahsh (may Allaah be pleased with him) said:
    We were sitting with the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) when he raised his head towards the sky, then he put his palm on his forehead and said: “Subhaan-Allaah! What a strict issue has been revealed to me!” We remained silent and were afraid. The following morning I asked him, “O Messenger of Allaah, what is this strict issue that has been revealed?” He said, “By the One in Whose hand is my soul, if a man were killed in battle for the sake of Allaah, then brought back to life, then killed and brought back to life again, then killed, and he owed a debt, he would not enter Paradise until his debt was paid off.” Classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Nasaa’i, 4367.
    The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) refrained from offering the funeral prayer for one who had died owing two dinars, until Abu Qataadah (may Allaah be pleased with him) promised to pay it off for him. When he saw him the following day and said, I have paid it off, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Now his skin has become cool for him.” Musnad Ahmad (3/629); classed as hasan by al-Nawawi in al-Khalaasah (2/931) and by Ibn Muflih in al-Adaab al-Shar’iyyah (1/104).

  12. Linnie

    Irelavant of faith that you are from, running a business like Halal Monitorring Committee (HMC)has done is fraudalant!

    This is nothing short of fraud, and carrys a prison sentence if this is found to be correct!

    HMC accountant should be struck off immediately, and any HMC Directors banned from running future businesses!

  13. Abu Eemaan

    HMC are actually a great organisation what they do, however their accountants have made a huge error here and I would put the blame at them rather than HMC. They should have cleaned up this mess!

    1. The accountants form part of the organisation and it’s operation. A debt is a debt and there is no escape from it Islamically a lesson and warning to all. One to correct whilst we are here. The protection of the halal diet is critical but also involves halal practises of those who walk that path.

  14. Yonus Patel

    Conduct of the Trustees and HMC Accountants
    The trustees have now incorporated a new company and started trading without notifying its suppliers and customers. The new company is VAT registered and cost to it customers has not changed. For example if a customer was paying £360-per pay year to HMC without VAT now £360-including VAT to HMC UK. This is a dubious way of running a company.

    HMC financial statements did not disclose the company’s inability to continue its operation for the foreseeable future. Its Auditors Issued an Unqualified Report. This needs to be closely looked into by the relevant authority in the light of the guidance from the FINANCILA REPORTING COUNCIL:
    GOING CONCERN AND LIQUIDITY RISK: GUIDENCE FOR DIRECTORS OF UK COMPANIES 2009

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  18. Hanif loonat

    Total scam!! How and what respected Ulama
    Have stated its ok to set up again after liquidating
    The old organisation. you live in this country do have to abide
    By the laws, one of which is doing business ethically and running
    A company in a orderly manner. Any debts must
    Be paid in full. What were their accountants
    Doing for 6 years? many Muslim business men
    Think it’s fine to “do” the VAT and NI, liquidate the
    Company and start again. Wrong wrong wrong!

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